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Post by Silvercloud on Mar 19, 2007 16:05:06 GMT 7
Do people here question prospective buyers of you birds to see if they have the required licences? Do you provide their details to the relevant dept. or is that the responsibility of the new owners?
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Post by USAJustin on Mar 22, 2007 7:00:13 GMT 7
not many birds are kept over here Jules that require licenses.
There are some such as the Golden Conure, Cuban Amazons & a few other really rare birds. However permits etc are only required should you decide to move the bird across state lines.
If they're sold within their respective state then a permit is not required.
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Post by Silvercloud on Mar 22, 2007 8:16:48 GMT 7
I was mostly thinking of the lorikeets. I'm considering selling one of my rainbows and they are on my avicultural licence, so do I have to check if the prospective buyer has a licence as well and give the details to DEC or whoever. When I bought the rainbows I had to fill out my details and pay for a licence at the petshop, they sent off the money and details and I was sent my licence. When I bought my superb I had to give my licence number to the shop I bought him.
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Post by Mark on Mar 22, 2007 15:10:35 GMT 7
Sorry i can not help on WA licenceing but we do need to do it here iq QLD when required
Peter, Matt or LB are the best ones to ask !!
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Post by Matt on Mar 23, 2007 17:57:31 GMT 7
Sorry Jules I missed this post somehow! I know that the rules have just changes a little because someone at work was telling me about it. Apparently now if the bird is listed on your licence it has to be recorded with DEC when the bird exchanges hands or dies. Also I think the buyer and seller have to notify and you as the seller need to make sure the buyer has a licence for that bird before they buy it. I am not sure about all of this so I am planning to call DEC next week and check it out, I will let you know how I go.
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Post by USAJustin on Mar 23, 2007 21:08:19 GMT 7
Sorry Jules I missed this post somehow! Why isn't that suprising? |
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Post by USAJustin on Mar 23, 2007 21:09:22 GMT 7
I was mostly thinking of the lorikeets. I'm considering selling one of my rainbows and they are on my avicultural licence, so do I have to check if the prospective buyer has a licence as well and give the details to DEC or whoever. When I bought the rainbows I had to fill out my details and pay for a licence at the petshop, they sent off the money and details and I was sent my licence. When I bought my superb I had to give my licence number to the shop I bought him. It's odd that a Superb Parrot would require a license to be kept. They're not endangered are they? |
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Post by Mark on Mar 24, 2007 15:54:23 GMT 7
Neither are Rainbows Lorikeets or Black Cockatoos !!!!!
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Post by Silvercloud on Mar 24, 2007 17:26:20 GMT 7
Thanks for that Matt, I thought that'd be the case. Justin, most species that aren't from our own state need to be licenced though with some of them you can have several before you need to have a licence.
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Post by Jen on Mar 24, 2007 20:33:51 GMT 7
When we got our pair I read up on them and the superb parrots (Barrabands) do seem to often be classified as endangered in a few of the books I have and they also mention that they are not often kept in avairies which really surprised me as I know quite a few people who keep them.
In regards to licences you should always keep a book on what you sell and yes they purchaser will need to provide a current licence.
I always keep a record of where I buy the birds too as you just never know if you'll need to prove where you got them. (I do know of someone who lost all their birds because they found an injured red tail black cockatoo and rescued it but didn't report it immediately however this may have been because it was a wild bird and a bit more of a serious offence than having an unregistered captive bred one)
My records contain: Purchase date, Seller name, Leg ring ID if applicable, Approximate age, Parentage if known and any breeding results that the seller can tell me about. ie if they have bred before and raised their own offspring etc etc
I start a new page for each pair and then record any offspring etc under it if they breed for us.
i believe you are "supposed" to notify CALM (DEC) when selling them or if they die or whatever but half the time our local CALM branch doesn't seem to know much about the regulations on keeping birds anyway and the only guy down there that does have any idea always seems to be on holidays! To be honest I don't actually know of anyone who notifies CALM (not saying they don't but who knows)
I thought that we should tell them when we purchase birds but the couple of times I tried to do that they just told me to update my list with them once a year when I renew my licences.
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Post by Silvercloud on Mar 25, 2007 7:51:49 GMT 7
Thanks Jen ;D
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Post by bubbles on Mar 27, 2007 9:11:43 GMT 7
Over here in NSW we have to keep a detailed log book of all birds that are on licence. Superb Parrots are endangered and are only found in a small area.
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Post by Mark on Mar 27, 2007 15:23:09 GMT 7
I still got my NSW licence as well as a Queensland international licence
I think i might start a collection lol
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